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	<description>In today&#039;s world, there is a great deal of confusion when it comes to matters of truth, meaning, morality, our origin, and our destiny.  The purpose of Renewed Thoughts is to bring clarity to such issues by examining them in light of a Biblical worldview, using the tools of science, philosophy, and critical thinking.</description>
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		<title>By: christian singles</title>
		<link>http://renewedthoughts.com/94/why-not-discuss-politics-and-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>christian singles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Wonderful site, where did you come up with the info in this synopsis? Im thankful I found it though, I will be checking back soon to see what other articles you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Wonderful site, where did you come up with the info in this synopsis? Im thankful I found it though, I will be checking back soon to see what other articles you have.</p>
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		<title>By: marty </title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 03:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, this will shed some light on your other questions.  I don&#8217;t think that my comments are subject to the fallacy of equivocation because I wasn&#8217;t attempting to change the definition throughout my comments.  Rather, I was trying to clarify the definition for the reasons that I&#8217;ve stated here and in my article.  I hope that this is helpful.  Thank you so much for your input. I really do appreciate it.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, this will shed some light on your other questions.  I don&rsquo;t think that my comments are subject to the fallacy of equivocation because I wasn&rsquo;t attempting to change the definition throughout my comments.  Rather, I was trying to clarify the definition for the reasons that I&rsquo;ve stated here and in my article.  I hope that this is helpful.  Thank you so much for your input. I really do appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: marty </title>
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		<dc:creator>marty </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 03:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furthermore, I think that my definition holds up for practical reasons as well.  Let&#8217;s think for a moment about why most religions begin or why they exist in the first place.  They are all attempting to somehow make sense of and explain where everything came from, where everything is ultimately going, and how we should live between those two.  Yet, even the atheist, through his or her worldview, is attempting to answer those very same questions even though their explanation will be purely materialistic. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore, I think that my definition holds up for practical reasons as well.  Let&rsquo;s think for a moment about why most religions begin or why they exist in the first place.  They are all attempting to somehow make sense of and explain where everything came from, where everything is ultimately going, and how we should live between those two.  Yet, even the atheist, through his or her worldview, is attempting to answer those very same questions even though their explanation will be purely materialistic.</p>
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		<title>By: marty </title>
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		<dc:creator>marty </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 03:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#8217;s important to note that definition number one says &#8220;especially&#8221;, meaning &#8220;usually the case, but not limited to it.&#8221;  Note also that both definitions involve a set of beliefs.  Again, even though the word &#8220;belief&#8221; is typically used to describe a (deity) religious view, it clearly is not limited to that definition.  Even my atheist friends have a certain set of beliefs of their own.  For example, they have certain beliefs regarding the origin of the universe, an event that neither I nor my atheist friends will ever have access to in order to &#8220;prove&#8221; empirically.  For that very reason, there is a certain element of faith (belief) to any and all views regarding the origin of the universe. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&rsquo;s important to note that definition number one says &ldquo;especially&rdquo;, meaning &ldquo;usually the case, but not limited to it.&rdquo;  Note also that both definitions involve a set of beliefs.  Again, even though the word &ldquo;belief&rdquo; is typically used to describe a (deity) religious view, it clearly is not limited to that definition.  Even my atheist friends have a certain set of beliefs of their own.  For example, they have certain beliefs regarding the origin of the universe, an event that neither I nor my atheist friends will ever have access to in order to &ldquo;prove&rdquo; empirically.  For that very reason, there is a certain element of faith (belief) to any and all views regarding the origin of the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty </title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 03:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous,   
 
Thank you for taking the time to comment and to raise some great questions.  Hopefully, I will be able to clarify some of my points.  Regarding my equating religion to one&#8217;s worldview, you asked if my definition was acceptable.  I believe that it is,  both according to Webster and on a practical level as well.  Webster&#8217;s defines &#8220;religion&#8221; as:  (def.1) &#8220;A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies..&#8221;  (def.6)  &#8220;Something a person believes in and follows devotedly.&#8221; (Notice that the latter doesn&#8217;t require a deity).  </description>
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<p>Thank you for taking the time to comment and to raise some great questions.  Hopefully, I will be able to clarify some of my points.  Regarding my equating religion to one&rsquo;s worldview, you asked if my definition was acceptable.  I believe that it is,  both according to Webster and on a practical level as well.  Webster&rsquo;s defines &ldquo;religion&rdquo; as:  (def.1) &ldquo;A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies..&rdquo;  (def.6)  &ldquo;Something a person believes in and follows devotedly.&rdquo; (Notice that the latter doesn&rsquo;t require a deity).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 03:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty 
 
I would like to say that it is very great of you to be talking about these issues since not many people are willing to take that stand. But, I just have some disagreement&#039;s with this particular blog that I would like to hear you address. 
 
First off you seem to equate religion and worldview when you say &quot;A religion is fundamentally a worldview, a perspective, a set of assumptions, a &#8216;lens&#8217; if you will, through which a person looks at everything in life in order to try and explain how all of life fits together in a coherent and comprehensive way.&quot; I&#039;m not sure where you derived this definition, but is this definition acceptable? The Latin word for religion is religiō which has the connotation of a belief in a deity or its involvement in ones worldview per say . By etymology and definition in Webster&#039;s dictionary both involve the role of a supernatural creator. So the best definition would be one that involved a supernatural entity in a worldview.  
 
Secondly what is meant by &quot;You see?  That&#8217;s exactly why I say that you should never discuss politics and religion!&#8221; and your definition are two different things. The philosopher Wittgenstein talks about language games and that when we use a word they can&#039;t have completely 100% objective meanings, words differ in the contexts in which we use them. So if I were to say brick to my two year old child I would in be teaching her what a brick is. But if I said brick to a friend when I am outside building a brick wall I am asking him to hand me a brick. The same word with two different meanings. And it is the same case with your use of the word religion. When the person says it in the first context he is very much referring to the practice and worship of a deity, like Christianity or other religions, where the definition you give for religion becomes a fundamentally different word. With these as two different words you cannot logically draw the conclusion, the argument falls subject to the fallacy of equivocation.  
 
I hope to hear your thoughts if you have the time.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty </p>
<p>I would like to say that it is very great of you to be talking about these issues since not many people are willing to take that stand. But, I just have some disagreement&#039;s with this particular blog that I would like to hear you address. </p>
<p>First off you seem to equate religion and worldview when you say &quot;A religion is fundamentally a worldview, a perspective, a set of assumptions, a &lsquo;lens&rsquo; if you will, through which a person looks at everything in life in order to try and explain how all of life fits together in a coherent and comprehensive way.&quot; I&#039;m not sure where you derived this definition, but is this definition acceptable? The Latin word for religion is religiō which has the connotation of a belief in a deity or its involvement in ones worldview per say . By etymology and definition in Webster&#039;s dictionary both involve the role of a supernatural creator. So the best definition would be one that involved a supernatural entity in a worldview.  </p>
<p>Secondly what is meant by &quot;You see?  That&rsquo;s exactly why I say that you should never discuss politics and religion!&rdquo; and your definition are two different things. The philosopher Wittgenstein talks about language games and that when we use a word they can&#039;t have completely 100% objective meanings, words differ in the contexts in which we use them. So if I were to say brick to my two year old child I would in be teaching her what a brick is. But if I said brick to a friend when I am outside building a brick wall I am asking him to hand me a brick. The same word with two different meanings. And it is the same case with your use of the word religion. When the person says it in the first context he is very much referring to the practice and worship of a deity, like Christianity or other religions, where the definition you give for religion becomes a fundamentally different word. With these as two different words you cannot logically draw the conclusion, the argument falls subject to the fallacy of equivocation.  </p>
<p>I hope to hear your thoughts if you have the time.</p>
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